# Force HTTPS usage

**URL:** <https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31>\
**Category:** 🔄 Meta\
**Created:** [March 27, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31 "2019-03-27T20:31:24Z")\
**Posts on this page:** 10\
**Page:** 1

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**Author:** ![michael](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/michael/32/11_2.png) [@michael](https://es.discourse.group/u/michael)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 8:31pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/1 "2019-03-27T20:31:24Z")

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I’ve noticed that I am able to access this website over HTTP and, surprisingly, remain logged in! This means that I’ve sent my authentication token in plain text over the open internet. We should make the website unavailable over HTTP, or at least set the “Secure” flag for the authentication cookie. In the meantime, enabling HSTS will ensure I don’t accidentally visit the website using HTTP ever again.

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**Author:** ![devsnek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/devsnek/32/100_2.png) [@devsnek](https://es.discourse.group/u/devsnek)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 8:34pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/2 "2019-03-27T20:34:28Z")

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Also, use over HTTP will cause OAuth2 with GitHub to fail because the redirect URL is `https`, which prevents people from signing up with GitHub.

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**Author:** ![jridgewell](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/jridgewell/32/18_2.png) [@jridgewell](https://es.discourse.group/u/jridgewell)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 8:38pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/3 "2019-03-27T20:38:52Z")

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Secure flag and a forced redirect + HSTS?

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**Author:** ![aki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/aki/32/4_2.png) [@aki](https://es.discourse.group/u/aki)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 8:40pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/4 "2019-03-27T20:40:39Z")

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I’ve emailed Discourse to look into this.

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**Author:** ![markm](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/markm/32/19_2.png) [@markm](https://es.discourse.group/u/markm)\
**Post date:** [March 27, 2019, 8:46pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/5 "2019-03-27T20:46:17Z")

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Another data point: My “Confirm your new account” email provided a link with, sensibly, a url containing unguessable noise for authorization. However, that same url also began with “[http://es.discourse.group/u/activate-account/](http://es.discourse.group/u/activate-account/)”. Since this one is a use-once secret, it isn’t actually so harmful that it is sent in plaintext. But treating a secret-holding url this way makes me worry about sloppy security practices in general.

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**Author:** ![devsnek](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/devsnek/32/100_2.png) [@devsnek](https://es.discourse.group/u/devsnek)\
**Post date:** [April 2, 2019, 8:44pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/6 "2019-04-02T20:44:16Z")

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Seems like this has been fixed now 🎉

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**Author:** ![aki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/aki/32/4_2.png) [@aki](https://es.discourse.group/u/aki)\
**Post date:** [April 3, 2019, 3:15am UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/7 "2019-04-03T03:15:05Z")

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Oh yeah totally flaked on updating y’all today. Thanks Discourse staff for your help!

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**Author:** ![OutsourcedGuru](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/outsourcedguru/32/32_2.png) [@OutsourcedGuru](https://es.discourse.group/u/OutsourcedGuru)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 9:29pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/8 "2019-04-04T21:29:54Z")

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For what it's worth, your "[TC39] Confirm your new account" email landed in my Junk email ([outlook.com](http://outlook.com)). I include the pertinent part of the email headers if it helps at all. I've marked it as Not Junk to fix my own situation but others of course might be affected.

Since you don't really control the domain name you'd probably have to forward this to Discourse perhaps.

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 (2603:10b6:a03:54::46) by BYAPR16MB2725.namprd16.prod.outlook.com with HTTPS
 via BYAPR02CA0069.NAMPRD02.PROD.OUTLOOK.COM; Thu, 4 Apr 2019 21:21:29 +0000
 Received: from DB3EUR04FT063.eop-eur04.prod.protection.outlook.com
 (10.152.24.54) by DB3EUR04HT003.eop-eur04.prod.protection.outlook.com
 (10.152.25.42) with Microsoft SMTP Server (version=TLS1_2,
 cipher=TLS_ECDHE_RSA_WITH_AES_256_CBC_SHA384) id 15.20.1750.16; Thu, 4 Apr
 2019 21:21:29 +0000
 Authentication-Results: spf=pass (sender IP is 173.201.192.35)
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 Date: Thu, 04 Apr 2019 21:21:27 +0000
 From: TC39 <es@discoursemail.com>
 Reply-To: TC39 <es@discoursemail.com>
 To: support@outsourced.guru
 Message-ID: <0bfd9c64-7a67-43ac-ac30-b44b3da2a1af@es.discourse.group>
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**Author:** ![aki](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/aki/32/4_2.png) [@aki](https://es.discourse.group/u/aki)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:25pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/9 "2019-04-04T22:25:39Z")

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tyvm @OutsourcedGuru, I've set a link to your post w/raw headers to Discourse. I do not envy the people responsible for email deliverability, i remember that stuff being haaaaard back when i worked on it 😬

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**Author:** ![OutsourcedGuru](https://yyz2.discourse-cdn.com/free1/user_avatar/es.discourse.group/outsourcedguru/32/32_2.png) [@OutsourcedGuru](https://es.discourse.group/u/OutsourcedGuru)\
**Post date:** [April 4, 2019, 10:50pm UTC](https://es.discourse.group/t/force-https-usage/31/10 "2019-04-04T22:50:23Z")

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They should know this by now. Every time they add another hostname to their domains they need to update their SPF records.
