# February 5, 2020 Meeting Notes
-----
**In-person attendees:** Aki Braun (AKI), Andrew Paprocki (API), Rob Palmer (RPR), Waldemar Horwat (WH), Chip Morningstar (CM), Shane F Carr (SFC), Shu-yu Guo (SYG), Jordan Harband (JHD), Michael Saboff (MLS), Keith Miller (KM), Michael Ficarra (MF), Jonathan Keslin (JKN), Kevin Gibbons (KG), Richard Gibson (RGN), Justin Ridgewell (JRL), Zibi Braniecki (ZB), Myles Borins (MBS), Bradford C. Smith (BCS) Rick Button (RBU), Mary Marchini (MAR), Guilherme Hermeto (GHO)
**Remote attendees:** Dan Ehrenberg (DE), Brian Terlson (BT), David Rudin (DRN), Jason Nutter (JAN), Ron Buckton (RBN), Pieter Ouwerkerk (POK), István Sebestyén (IS), Min Qi Wu (WMQ), Leo Balter (LEO), Valerie Young (VYG), Jack Works (JWK), Mathieu Hofman (MAH), John Hax (JHX), Caridy Patiño (CP), Sergey Rubanov (SRV), Rajiv Batra (!!!), Yulia Startsev (YSV), Bradley Farias (BFS), Gus Caplan (GCL), Caio Lima (CLA)
## Preserve Host Virtualizability (Continue from Day 1)
Presenter: Mark Miller
- [slides](https://github.com/tc39/agendas/blob/master/2020/02_talk_preserve-virtualizability.pdf)
JHD: How does this help in practice? Basically, every time a feature is proposed that harms virtualizability, it’s usually unintentional. The only way it is protected is if people with concerns are in the room, discover it is an issue early enough to fix it. We have to relitigate this every time. If we are able to come to some form of consensus that some aspects of virtualizanility are sacrosanct, we will have to debate it. It would be really helpful to document and enshrine these sorts of implicit considerations that have guided the evolution of the language for a while. The spec language helps in practice start out realizing what things people have to be concerned with.
MM: Thanks JHD, that was very well put.
SYG: I’ve done a little more research. When I first put it yesterday, I was expressing a general worry that...I fully support the research. I have some worries about when you do propose something concrete and what it forces on Hosts. How does this impact WebIDL unforgables? Are you going to allow that still?
This file has been truncated. show original